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Post  skillz on Mon 22 Oct - 10:49

Can't we make this class more in lines with tamiya cup rules and prccc rules so that the drivers that do race at other events can use same motors.

So I was thinking to make it tamiya 14t and 13.5 anymake. What u guys think?

The tamiya 14t is so cool and 540j is boring.....
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Post  driver 101 on Mon 22 Oct - 11:31

Yes, this is a good call. We have to align the rules especially with next years TC rounds, who know maybe TRCCC will host a round as well.

and with most TRCCC drivers having and still getting the Tamiya combo, it makes complete sense.

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Post  duck.co.za on Tue 23 Oct - 20:43

Need more info ??? What does the 14T Tamiya motor cost ?? What ESC does it use ?? Is it in Sports man mode ???
While I understand the reasoning , we need to take into account the guys who have already bought systems ?
There was all the talk about 13,5T being to fast ?? Fill us in a bit more ?? How does it compare to a silver can ?
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Post  SammyD on Tue 23 Oct - 21:10

driver 101 wrote:
and with most TRCCC drivers ....

Ahem.....you trying to say something?? Laughing Laughing

What system are you going to use in fwd class at CC next year if you all conforming to TC rules, there is a bigger picture to bear in mind!
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Post  SammyD on Tue 23 Oct - 21:13

@ duck - TW 13.5t stock system is R1200.
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Post  duck.co.za on Tue 23 Oct - 22:39

Stop speaking code ? TW what??? Can you use another ESC ?????
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Post  SammyD on Wed 24 Oct - 3:29

Laughing Use google and look up Team Wave RB0 13.5t...it's what I have to use against those blistering Tamiya 14t systems.
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Post  SammyD on Wed 24 Oct - 3:31

Oh, tamiya system is R1800+
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Post  skillz on Wed 24 Oct - 17:15

Ok, so last night we did some testing with our current track design. I was running my FF03 with tamiya 14t system(includes tamiya esc). Samjr was running his fwd sabre from top racing with the stock 17.5 system and our gearing was open. Both systems are close in terms of fastest laps (under a half second). I personally think we should make it 540:j for the guys starting out its affordable and competitive vs sport tuned which will be faster vs 17.5 stock which is competitive as we know vs tamiya 14t system.

Its just a suggestion and a discussion we having. We can do more testing with all motors on track at once......
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Post  SammyD on Wed 24 Oct - 23:28

Where's duck?? scratch scratch

Last nite was totally awesome with the fwd's, I couldn't believe how much faster my car was just by going up 5 teeth!!!! I need grippier tyres now to handle the sweepers, I think ATS's have a limit and I reached that limit last nite. It was so cool chasing Nev lap after lap after lap, then I had a brain fart......... Embarassed then he was chasing me trying to get past for a few laps, it was totally totally awesome!!!! Oh yes, thanks for the loan of the pinion Nev!! cheers I just need to get that diesel sounding like a hybrid now!! Laughing Laughing And a little tightening of the diff and then who know's......Super touring Sunday championship here we come!!!! bounce bounce bounce bounce
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Post  duck.co.za on Wed 24 Oct - 23:46

I'm totally confused ????
Nev had a Tamiya 14T system
Sammy a 17,5T STOCK system and they were similar ????????????? How does the 13,5T fit in ? Am I missing something ?
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Post  SammyD on Thu 25 Oct - 0:05

Lunch Bar......O'vious!!!! Laughing Laughing Laughing

The 14t tamiya system is used for TC events, the 13.5t system is used in sarda events. Both systems are stock systems so should be similar in speed with the same rollout, this still has to be proven, but in theory it should be. The sabre chassis I bought was used for sarda events where they all use a 13.5t TW system in whatever chassis you run and the gearing and FDR's are all limited and chassis specific to keep the rollouts the same across the chassis spectrum. The gearing I was running after putting a hobbywing 17.5t system in was the same as used with the 13.5t system and my car wasn't anywhere near on pace with the 14t system, so Nev loaned me a bigger pinion which enabled me to be on pace with whatever gearing Nev had in his car.
I hope it makes sense now, cause I think I just confused myself with all this gibberish!!! Laughing Laughing

Only way to see it is on track, you coming on Sunday? We should be done by 1pm'ish.
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Post  SammyD on Thu 25 Oct - 0:08

Oh, and the only reason you would want to spend an extra R600 on a tamiya system is if you are going to run it in TC events or else it just doesn't justify the extra dosh???
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Post  duck.co.za on Thu 25 Oct - 22:09

Your HW setup was on stock settings ?? 0 advance settings ? So we could keep our existing 17,5T setups ?
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Post  SammyD on Fri 26 Oct - 1:04

Yip, it's the one Ty ran in his mini if I'm not mistaken? Bought it a few weeks ago from him.
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Post  driver 101 on Fri 26 Oct - 9:33

I also think the biggest factor here as well, is out tight short track, although these systems may sound totally incompatible, I think once again the nature of TRCCC's tight racing brings these options closer together.

The Tamiya System is a plug and play system with very limited preset options, like 3 different modes for braking, I think. Otherwise it is what it is, very simple.

Think, come sunday, we will have even a better idea of these various options

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Post  SammyD on Fri 26 Oct - 16:58

Track isn't so tight anymore, you need those horses down the straight and through the back sweeper!!! You could clearly see who had the extra power in those sections on Tuesday nite. It's going to be interesting though!!

We all know Nev is super consistant with his lap times, and for a part timer like me to be .4 off his fastest lap tells you something!! Very Happy
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Post  skillz on Sat 27 Oct - 2:24

Well Done Sam!!!!! Smile

Keep up the good driving!!!! Smile
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Post  SammyD on Sun 28 Oct - 18:23

Pity you guys couldn't make the final with your FF's today, would've been awesome to have had a dice!! I'm sure once Abdul gets his FF sorted he's going to be a nightmare to beat for sure!!
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Post  SammyD on Sat 3 Nov - 11:12

http://trccc.forum-motion.com/t228-rule-proposal-for-2013

And if you gear up a bit with a 17.5t you'll be running at the same pace if not faster.
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Post  skillz on Sat 3 Nov - 11:32

I'm having trouble mounting the 17.5 justock syestem from hobbywing in the FF03. I even went to buy the hop up carbon part but motor still can't be mounted properly.

So I really hope 14t is allowed next year. Johson is kak boring.

If the rule u proposed works for all cars, then why not.

Maybe on tuesday night we can discuss rules for 2013 for FF1 and FF03classes?
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Post  SammyD on Sat 3 Nov - 11:35

I think it's a good idea!! What were you running before in your FF? Oh wait, you said silvercan.... Embarassed
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Post  skillz on Sat 3 Nov - 11:41

Mayb for the next STS race next sunday we should try out ur rules u proposed. So we all choose our motor we want to use and follow the gearing u proposed...?

If it works then we can make it rules for next season.
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Post  SammyD on Sat 3 Nov - 11:43

That was my thinking as well, but waiting on comments re the proposal from everyone else. Can you let the guys know on the whatsapp group to check out the rule proposal, then at least we all on the same page when we chat about it trackside.
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Post  skillz on Sat 3 Nov - 11:45

Cool. Will do.
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